Contesting the charge that HLL is trying to cut its labour force, Khan says the number of workers has gone up from 10,000 to 35,000 in the past few years. "We grow jobs. For every employee we hire, we generate 80 jobs outside HLL," he adds. Managements claim they sincerely help workers and try to retain employees by transferring them to other job functions or locations, which is not acceptable to workers. HLL tried to transfer people to a site near Nashik but the union took the matter to court. Siemens has helped set up a cooperative for separated workers and gives them job work earlier given to contractors. It's going to lease its machinery and tools. Of the 300 workers who took VRS, 51 were accommodated in the first phase. TISCO, known for its sound industrial relations with not a hitch in 70 years, offers medical facilities, refundable loan, house rent allowance, education facilities for children, besides pension and severance package. "No other company, I think, offers such a liberal scheme," says TISCO's Singh. Between '96 and '99, TISCO separated 22,000 workers.