Former secretary (economic affairs) in the ministry of finance Dr E.A.S. Sarma is not known to buckle under political pressure. Having served as secretary in key ministries—power, expenditure and economic affairs—he is remembered by contemporaries as "an outstanding officer", honest to a fault. When Sarma put in his papers in November last year, eleven months before his scheduled retirement, it sent shock waves through the bureaucracy. In his 36 years of service, Sarma was transferred 22 times. The latest—which he came to know of through newspapers—convinced him he should resign. That Sarma was a conscientious bureaucrat and his sudden transfer was "mysterious" is suggested in a Business Standard editorial: "The decision, to put it at its mildest, was a curious one, since Mr Sarma was generally well regarded." He will shortly be taking up an assignment as the principal of the Hyderabad-based Administrative Staff College of India. Sarma spoke to Outlook over two exhaustive sessions. Excerpts:
How does the pmo influence ministries on behalf of business lobbies? Does it interfere in the ministries' functioning?
How does lobbying influence decision-making?
When you talk of the pmo, are you referring to Brajesh Mishra and N.K. Singh?
Has there been any interference from the pmo in the case of guarantees for the 3,960-MW power project being put up by Reliance at Hirma, Orissa?
Did the Ambanis ever contact you?
What about the Hindujas?
Is it true that Vajpayee makes public statements which is then interpreted to push decisions in favour of one lobby or the other?
What about the Group of Ministers (GoM) constituted by the pmo on telecommunications? What are the implications?
Does the pmo ride roughshod over the bureaucracy?